yes, there's been a lot of noise around obama care. and its launch in october. and the failures that float from that. but as you know, joy, i've said from the very beginning of this year that, you know, the party has an opportunity to put some real -- substantive policy on the table to differentiate itself not just rhetorically from this administration, but, you know, and politically, but also in terms of what it hopes to accomplish in something -- with something like obama care. and i think that that opportunity is still there. the question he is, do they take advantage of it going into a new year, where you're going to have on top of, you know, the watch, the death watch by republicans and the hopeful watch by democrats, you know, in the launch of obama care, the budget issues, sequester and all these things begin to take a new shape, beginning in just a few short weeks. >> and, you know, jonathan, a lot of times presidencies are pronounced dead over and over again by the media, every wrong turn -- it's the end of the presidency. so, you know, sort of give us